Angela Brümmer hat letztes Jahr ihren 30. Geburtstag gefeiert. Ihre zierliche Gestalt steht ziemlich im Gegensatz zu ihrer taffen Herangehensweise an schwierige Themen. Bereits heute gilt sie als gefragte Beraterin in Sachen Denkmalschutz, Revitalisierung von Baudenkmalen, von Burgen bis hin zu ganzen Innenstädten. Schon während des Studiums hat sie ihr erstes Unternehmen gegründet, zahlreiche Preise gewonnen und ist regelmäßiger Gast auf Podien. Insgesamt 30 Bauabschnitte hat sie begleitet, darunter waren neun Burgen und Schlösser, aber auch Kirchen, Industriedenkmale und sogar ein Bauhaus-Objekt. Insgesamt ist ein Bauvolumen von weit über 100 Mio. € über ihren Schreibtisch gegangen. Sie lebt in Berlin
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