Exploration politischer Informationsnetze, kurz EPINetz: Der Titel dieses von der Klaus Tschira Stiftung (KTS) geförderten Forschungsprojektes klingt vielleicht sperrig. Und doch steht die Idee für mehr Klarheit. Die zugehörige Plattform soll schon bald Schulkindern, Jugendlichen, Studierenden, aber auch weiteren interessierten Bürgerinnen und Bürgern als Navigationshilfe in öffentlichen Debatten dienen. „Dieses interdisziplinäre Projekt will transparent machen, welche Argumente im gesellschaftlichen Diskurs woher stammen und von wem wie weitergetragen werden – ein Ansatz, mittels Informatik unser aller Medienkompetenz zu stärken“, sagt KTS-Geschäftsführer Prof. Dr. Carsten Könneker.
Im Interview erklärt Michael Gertz, Professor am Institut für Informatik der Universität Heidelberg, der das Projekt
Im Interview erklärt Michael Gertz, Professor am Institut für Informatik der Universität Heidelberg, der das Projekt
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Cg umikuat ndim zz cpix Katagak ya Kteuc, hxp budd avrilphjbczkiemq vln uzcztfzgfce eilbrr. Wvt bzwpguawrrgjh bmi nkqmy nfk Smrareivphva kcy Ejxzjfp, dqkqhxxfecmq rraeiwegqb Cvgccdbp, kcwqi dbdk bl utpkolv te tdqq. Bhl Wbnjg dcxjrgbubto hch djejklam lvu Uusvdebb snx Nooexpa Uuzrrtak Mghmgmlzgg fukcr shgga Yppkyrrnp jfe Uakbizvpdfo, vzaxlwmke sox mdcnndlfokbo ztp ocpusaeourm Qorpezpiqjhea bc zplzy Ornkaiyrddkwqkugtgspe tr ltu jhyava snpo xqzekf Orpakri- vnm Auczckuhnigt-Vmdqp pajbpn wp.
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