Die Corona-Pandemie setzt werdende Eltern unter Stress. Deshalb ist das Pilotprojekt des Universitätsklinikums Tübingen besonders wichtig. Harald Abele, Professor an der Abteilung Hebammenwissenschaften, und sein Team haben sich etwas einfallen lassen: Online-Beratung für Schwangere und Wöchnerinnen. Die ersten Erfahrungen des von der Klaus Tschira Stiftung mit einer Anschubfinanzierung für die digitale Plattform ermöglichten Projektes sind rundum positiv – und werden Kreise ziehen.
Im Interview beschreiben Harald Abele sowie die Hebamme und Stillbeauftragte des Klinikums, Barbara Müllerschön, wie die Idee entstand und welche Erfahrungen bereits gesammelt wurden.
Wie kam es zur Idee?
Harald Abele: Es sind zwei Faktoren zusammengekommen. Zunächst besteht
Im Interview beschreiben Harald Abele sowie die Hebamme und Stillbeauftragte des Klinikums, Barbara Müllerschön, wie die Idee entstand und welche Erfahrungen bereits gesammelt wurden.
Wie kam es zur Idee?
Harald Abele: Es sind zwei Faktoren zusammengekommen. Zunächst besteht
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