Simone Straub, Trainerin & Coach bei Der Personalberater Coach GmbH, blickt als Brancheninsiderin hinter die Kulissen erfolgreicher Personalberatung. Für den Personalberater Coach Podcast geht sie dem Geschäftsmodell Executive Placement mit inversem Headhunting auf den Grund.
Zu Gast im Interview ist Frank Adensam, Pionier und Begründer des Executive Placements. Gemeinsam mit seinem Team arbeitet er als erfolgreicher Executive-Placement-Berater und Geschäftsführer von Adensam Managementberatung.
Sie haben als Pionier diese Dienstleistung im deutschsprachigen Raum etabliert – aber vielleicht holen Sie uns dazu nochmal ab?
Frank Adensam: Inverses Headhunting kommt ursprünglich aus der Outplacement-Beratung. Diese kam Ende der 80er, Anfang der 90er nach Deutschland.
Zu Gast im Interview ist Frank Adensam, Pionier und Begründer des Executive Placements. Gemeinsam mit seinem Team arbeitet er als erfolgreicher Executive-Placement-Berater und Geschäftsführer von Adensam Managementberatung.
Sie haben als Pionier diese Dienstleistung im deutschsprachigen Raum etabliert – aber vielleicht holen Sie uns dazu nochmal ab?
Frank Adensam: Inverses Headhunting kommt ursprünglich aus der Outplacement-Beratung. Diese kam Ende der 80er, Anfang der 90er nach Deutschland.
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