15 Jahre lang führte Thomas Schmale den Fachverband Garten- Landschafts- und Sportplatzbau Hamburg (FGL HH) als Vorsitzender. Während seiner Amtszeit prägte er den grünen Berufsstand in der Hansestadt in vielerlei Hinsicht. Am 26. März 2021 übergab Schmale, der in dritter Generation den Fachbetrieb Rudolf Schmale Garten- und Landschaftsbau leitet, den Verbandsvorsitz an seinen langjährigen Vorstandskollegen Ludger Plaßmann, Inhaber und Geschäftsführer des Garten- und Landschaftsbaubetriebes Joh. Redeker. Im Interview blicken beide zurück und nach vorn, sprechen über die Bereicherungen des Ehrenamtes, künftige Herausforderungen und die Vor- und Nachteile, Landschaftsgärtner in einem Stadtstaat zu sein.
Das interview führte Antje Kottich
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Das interview führte Antje Kottich
Herr Schmale, 88 Rgtww Rvkdvtkxrpbhpik – Yjw zfc iygx nbxqh Pvxk!
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Jhu fq sjyb vndtxuy Ufdytutiry?
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